I have had problems with some of the secrecy that we do and I thought it was too much sometimes. Like why can't I give my phone number to a friend? Why can't we trust anyone outside the church without a big deal?
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5840580/kody_brown_star_of_tlcs_new_reality.html
That is why. I don't know what is so wrong about a man having four wives and taking care of them!
Larry King has to take care of SEVEN wives and no one cares. Donald Trump has three wives to take care of.
It's okay for these men to have a bunch of wives in a row and it's okay for Hugh Hefner to have a BUNCH of girls he just has sex with all the time and all that's okay but if they have more than one at the same time that is supposed to be bad?
So why are we wrong and they're right?
Tuesday, September 28, 2010
Saturday, September 11, 2010
Welcome Renee Rachel!!
Last Sunday, September 5th, at 9:25pm our family welcomed Renee Rachel into the world! She's got dark brown hair like her mom and she was 8lbs 3oz and 20 inches tall. Christie is doing just fine and is happy to be a mom for the third time!
The week has been very busy and I have not been on here a lot but it is for a very pretty reason!
I hope all of you have had as blessed a week!
The week has been very busy and I have not been on here a lot but it is for a very pretty reason!
I hope all of you have had as blessed a week!
Thursday, September 2, 2010
Alice's questions
Alice is a really sweet lady who needs prayer for a small stroke she had and she also had some questions so I am posting them here:
I was wondering who kills and dresses the chickens when it's time?
Steve does. I can't do it.
Are you thinking of getting any more stock to use for food such as goats & dairy cows, or pigs & cows for their meat?
We are running Angus until the snow comes in. 50 of them are ours and Steve will probably take one for meat pretty soon. I really don't want dairy cows again they are so much work.
With so many females in the home, does everyone tend to use their special talents to improve the atmosphere of the home? (Such as you doing a lot of the cooking and Steve doing the fence repairs and other household improvements.)
Yeah I do a lot of the cooking now and we all have our things to do. Lauren is good with the tractor so she does a lot of the plowing when it needs to be done and she moves the pipes when they need to be moved.
Does the family have a job chart of things that need to be done daily?
No, we just do what needs to be done when it needs to be done. Everyone knows their thing so you just know you need to do it because everyone else depends on you to do it.
Do you think that Shari's and Steve's girl are possibly depressed? Or maybe they are taking advantage of their mom not being there to encourage them to do their fair share of the responsibilities. (I got the feeling from some of your earlier messages that everyone in the family contributed to the daily care and responsibilities.) I understand that you and the girls feel that Shari abandoned the family.
Yes, they are a little depressed and it is totally okay. They still do their fair share of work but things are just more relaxed now and it's more that things get done because they need to get done and not because someone said to do it.
I was wondering who kills and dresses the chickens when it's time?
Steve does. I can't do it.
Are you thinking of getting any more stock to use for food such as goats & dairy cows, or pigs & cows for their meat?
We are running Angus until the snow comes in. 50 of them are ours and Steve will probably take one for meat pretty soon. I really don't want dairy cows again they are so much work.
With so many females in the home, does everyone tend to use their special talents to improve the atmosphere of the home? (Such as you doing a lot of the cooking and Steve doing the fence repairs and other household improvements.)
Yeah I do a lot of the cooking now and we all have our things to do. Lauren is good with the tractor so she does a lot of the plowing when it needs to be done and she moves the pipes when they need to be moved.
Does the family have a job chart of things that need to be done daily?
No, we just do what needs to be done when it needs to be done. Everyone knows their thing so you just know you need to do it because everyone else depends on you to do it.
Do you think that Shari's and Steve's girl are possibly depressed? Or maybe they are taking advantage of their mom not being there to encourage them to do their fair share of the responsibilities. (I got the feeling from some of your earlier messages that everyone in the family contributed to the daily care and responsibilities.) I understand that you and the girls feel that Shari abandoned the family.
Yes, they are a little depressed and it is totally okay. They still do their fair share of work but things are just more relaxed now and it's more that things get done because they need to get done and not because someone said to do it.
Wednesday, September 1, 2010
More questions from Charmed
ok, I got some more questions Whats the hardest part about being a new mom?
Not sleeping. I never really thought about how important sleep is until I wasn't getting any. Now it is the best thing in the world to sleep all night long because then I am not tired the next day.
the best part(s)?
Where do I start? I love my girls soooooo much! I can't begin to tell you how wonderful it is when they smile at me or when I am just holding them. I wish I could save some of that feeling for sometime when I really need it.
I don't know if you ever mentioned this or not, but are your girls identical, or fraternal twins?
Fraternal. Laura has red hair and Patty is sandy blonde like me. Patty is also bigger than Laura and she is a lot more active. Laura is the one who loves to be held the most. They're reall different in a lot of ways and I think I said that they do have matching outfits but I never dress them that way at the same time. I like them being different.
do all the wives have their own bedrooms?
Yes.
do you still bunk together sometimes when someone else is with Steve?
Yes.
Favorite movie?
Princess Diaries is still my favorite movie. Titanic is in there too and I also like Notting Hill.
Favorite song?
Delilah by the Plain White T's.
favorite color?
I don't like one color but I like colors together. Blue and Gold, blue and brown, red and black, red and white, orange and green.
favorite food?
Probably pork just because I like all the things you can do with it.
when you have more kids and have a pregnancy with just one baby, do you think you might give birth at home?
I'd like to do that if I can. I don't really like hospitals.
I remember you writing about Christi's kids swimming as babies, do your girls know how to swim?
I've had them in the pool a few times but I can't let go of them. Christie says it is okay to do it but I just can't. They will learn how to swim but just not now.
Not sleeping. I never really thought about how important sleep is until I wasn't getting any. Now it is the best thing in the world to sleep all night long because then I am not tired the next day.
the best part(s)?
Where do I start? I love my girls soooooo much! I can't begin to tell you how wonderful it is when they smile at me or when I am just holding them. I wish I could save some of that feeling for sometime when I really need it.
I don't know if you ever mentioned this or not, but are your girls identical, or fraternal twins?
Fraternal. Laura has red hair and Patty is sandy blonde like me. Patty is also bigger than Laura and she is a lot more active. Laura is the one who loves to be held the most. They're reall different in a lot of ways and I think I said that they do have matching outfits but I never dress them that way at the same time. I like them being different.
do all the wives have their own bedrooms?
Yes.
do you still bunk together sometimes when someone else is with Steve?
Yes.
Favorite movie?
Princess Diaries is still my favorite movie. Titanic is in there too and I also like Notting Hill.
Favorite song?
Delilah by the Plain White T's.
favorite color?
I don't like one color but I like colors together. Blue and Gold, blue and brown, red and black, red and white, orange and green.
favorite food?
Probably pork just because I like all the things you can do with it.
when you have more kids and have a pregnancy with just one baby, do you think you might give birth at home?
I'd like to do that if I can. I don't really like hospitals.
I remember you writing about Christi's kids swimming as babies, do your girls know how to swim?
I've had them in the pool a few times but I can't let go of them. Christie says it is okay to do it but I just can't. They will learn how to swim but just not now.
Sunday, August 29, 2010
Morgan's questions
I will keep doing the questions because it's soooo easy to have something to write about! Here are Morgan's questions:
What do the kids (mainly the older ones) think of the poly lifestyle? How is the subject handled with this kids?
They grew up around poly families so they don't really ever say too much about it. They know they have choices in life so they don't have to do it and even if they did want to do it it takes a long time for a family to be able to do poly. They have to be debt free and all that. About half the kids from the church leave for college and don't come back when they are done and that is just fine with everyone.
Do they have outside friends, and do they realize that their family is different/uncoventional?
Not a lot of church kids have outside friends and it is just because most families homeschool.
Do you guys make much of a distinction between whose kids are whose or are you more like one big family?
Everyone knows who their mom is but I think the nice thing for the kids is they have different moms to go to for different things. In some ways we are the one big family but then in others we aren't. No one makes a big deal about it.
What is Steve like as a father to all the kids?
I wish he had been my father. I mean that. He is really good with the kids and he makes a lot of time for them and still gets lots of things done. I think he works out of town sometimes to get some rest because he is so busy when he is home.
How often do you have sex with steve?
Right now more than Christie because she is due pretty soon and is not in the mood and Macy is at about 6 months and is not always interested. Sometimes he just sleeps with Christie or Macy to be close to them and that is really sweet. He did the same with me before the twins were born. But lately I am with him more than usual.
Maybe this has been answered before, but I can't remember. Are your intimate times always 1 on 1, or do you ever sleep with more than one sisterwife and steve? What is that like? I hope none of these are too innapropriate/personal!
Sometimes we sleep together and that's mostly just cuddle time and maybe some kissing and it is really nice when it's cold out. It's nothing weird.
What do the kids (mainly the older ones) think of the poly lifestyle? How is the subject handled with this kids?
They grew up around poly families so they don't really ever say too much about it. They know they have choices in life so they don't have to do it and even if they did want to do it it takes a long time for a family to be able to do poly. They have to be debt free and all that. About half the kids from the church leave for college and don't come back when they are done and that is just fine with everyone.
Do they have outside friends, and do they realize that their family is different/uncoventional?
Not a lot of church kids have outside friends and it is just because most families homeschool.
Do you guys make much of a distinction between whose kids are whose or are you more like one big family?
Everyone knows who their mom is but I think the nice thing for the kids is they have different moms to go to for different things. In some ways we are the one big family but then in others we aren't. No one makes a big deal about it.
What is Steve like as a father to all the kids?
I wish he had been my father. I mean that. He is really good with the kids and he makes a lot of time for them and still gets lots of things done. I think he works out of town sometimes to get some rest because he is so busy when he is home.
How often do you have sex with steve?
Right now more than Christie because she is due pretty soon and is not in the mood and Macy is at about 6 months and is not always interested. Sometimes he just sleeps with Christie or Macy to be close to them and that is really sweet. He did the same with me before the twins were born. But lately I am with him more than usual.
Maybe this has been answered before, but I can't remember. Are your intimate times always 1 on 1, or do you ever sleep with more than one sisterwife and steve? What is that like? I hope none of these are too innapropriate/personal!
Sometimes we sleep together and that's mostly just cuddle time and maybe some kissing and it is really nice when it's cold out. It's nothing weird.
Friday, August 27, 2010
Ollie & Charmed's questions
Ollie asked these things and the questions are not so bad really so don't anyone get all upset okay?
1. Are you liking sex more now?
Yes I am.
2. Is it still scary when your husband is trying to impregnate you?
Sometimes it is. I mean it is hard not to think about what it means but most of the scary stuff had to do with being a mom for the first time and that is over with so it is not so scary anymore.
3. Are you looking forward to being pregnant again?
Mostly yes! I don't know how to explain it but I really liked being pregnant at least until like the last month or so and I am hoping it will be easier when it is just one baby and not two.
4. Do you still have regrets about joining a poly family?
No, I love my family and can't imagine anything different now.
5. Ever think you might leave like Shari did?
No.
6. If you did would you want to be in another poly family or would you want to have a man of your own?
I don't want to leave so this is not something I've really thought about.
7. Is sex satisfying for you? Do you have orgasms and do you ever initiate sex with Steve?
Yes, sometimes. Yes. and Yes.
8. Do you still have other women contact you about joining your church and poly community?
Just one or two this year. So it is not like last year when some of them actually contacted one of the pastors to see about doing this.
9. Now that Shari is gone are you wearing sexier clothes around the house?
Not really sexy but more comfortable.
10. What's your favorite clothes to wear?
I'm looking forward to winter and wearing a robe and pjs!
11. Ever think you will take a regular job?
I really hope not.
12. Are there any movie stars you like? If so, who?
Anne Hathaway. I loved her in The Princess Diaries and in The Devil Wears Prada. And Matthew McConaghey!
13. Favorite movie?
Titanic.
14. If Steve were to introduce you to another 19 year old girl he wanted to make his wife what would you tell her?
Steve is not going to do this but I think I would tell her the truth about what all this means and that it is not a fairy tale life.
15. Think you might be jealous of a new wife?
Definitely. I don't know how I wouldn't be.
16. What's your favorite pizza?
Ham, pineapple, and bell pepper.
17. Does your church allow alcohol?
Yes, but we are not allowed to get drunk.
18. Do you love Steve? I mean do you love him as a lover?
Sometimes I am all mushy for him but most of the time I am just happy to have him there.
19. What do you miss about California?
Not driving 40 miles to go shopping.
20. What do you like about your new home that you didn't have in California?
Peace and quiet, no crazy people on the road, no one staring at you when you go shopping, people say hi to you all the time here and no one even looks at you in California like they are scared to say hi or something. People are just a lot friendlier here.
August 27, 2010 1:03 PM
charmed said...
14. Do you and Steve, or Steve and the other wives, ever have date nights, like where he takes you out somewhere just the two of you(or them) to spend time alone? or is it pretty much the whole family spending time together most of the time?
We are not doing dates right now just because money is really tight and it costs a lot to go somewhere. I mean we are 40 miles from town.
15. Do you dress your girls in matching outfits?
No. I got some matching outfits for them as presents but I never have them in the same thing at the same time. I really want them to be who they are and not ever half of someone else.
16. Do you still run like you and Christi were before?
No. The roads are mostly gravel and it is too hard to run on them. We have a treadmill here and I use that sometimes but Christie will probably use it more after her baby comes.
17. Any regrets about joining your poly family?
The only regret I ever had was I wish I had taken things a lot slower. I was really stupid when I came here and thought it was a big fairy tale because things were so much better than with my mom and I rushed into things. I didn't have to do the wedding night and I could have waited but I wanted the fairy tale wedding night and was not really ready for all of that.
18. What kind of disagreements does your family have(if any) from time to time?
CHORES!!!! Chores are a very big deal around here because you have to figure out what you can't do when you are pregnant and then everyone else has to agree and then someone else has to do your work for you. Lauren and Hannah are not so big into doing everything since their mom left and then with Macy and Christie pregnant at the same time that means me, Lauren, and Hannah have a lot of the hard work to do and it is easy to get really tired of doing all that all the time.
19. do you ever get upset with your sister wives?
Yes, sometimes.
20. Do you ever feel jealous of your sister wives? and if so how do you deal with it?
Yes. When I was expecting the girls and had to stop being with Steve I missed him a lot and it was hard to know he was with someone else when I really wanted to be held and I got a little jealous. I just had to deal with it is all because no one was doing anything wrong and I knew what I was getting into when I joined the family. It is my problem and not theirs.
1. Are you liking sex more now?
Yes I am.
2. Is it still scary when your husband is trying to impregnate you?
Sometimes it is. I mean it is hard not to think about what it means but most of the scary stuff had to do with being a mom for the first time and that is over with so it is not so scary anymore.
3. Are you looking forward to being pregnant again?
Mostly yes! I don't know how to explain it but I really liked being pregnant at least until like the last month or so and I am hoping it will be easier when it is just one baby and not two.
4. Do you still have regrets about joining a poly family?
No, I love my family and can't imagine anything different now.
5. Ever think you might leave like Shari did?
No.
6. If you did would you want to be in another poly family or would you want to have a man of your own?
I don't want to leave so this is not something I've really thought about.
7. Is sex satisfying for you? Do you have orgasms and do you ever initiate sex with Steve?
Yes, sometimes. Yes. and Yes.
8. Do you still have other women contact you about joining your church and poly community?
Just one or two this year. So it is not like last year when some of them actually contacted one of the pastors to see about doing this.
9. Now that Shari is gone are you wearing sexier clothes around the house?
Not really sexy but more comfortable.
10. What's your favorite clothes to wear?
I'm looking forward to winter and wearing a robe and pjs!
11. Ever think you will take a regular job?
I really hope not.
12. Are there any movie stars you like? If so, who?
Anne Hathaway. I loved her in The Princess Diaries and in The Devil Wears Prada. And Matthew McConaghey!
13. Favorite movie?
Titanic.
14. If Steve were to introduce you to another 19 year old girl he wanted to make his wife what would you tell her?
Steve is not going to do this but I think I would tell her the truth about what all this means and that it is not a fairy tale life.
15. Think you might be jealous of a new wife?
Definitely. I don't know how I wouldn't be.
16. What's your favorite pizza?
Ham, pineapple, and bell pepper.
17. Does your church allow alcohol?
Yes, but we are not allowed to get drunk.
18. Do you love Steve? I mean do you love him as a lover?
Sometimes I am all mushy for him but most of the time I am just happy to have him there.
19. What do you miss about California?
Not driving 40 miles to go shopping.
20. What do you like about your new home that you didn't have in California?
Peace and quiet, no crazy people on the road, no one staring at you when you go shopping, people say hi to you all the time here and no one even looks at you in California like they are scared to say hi or something. People are just a lot friendlier here.
August 27, 2010 1:03 PM
charmed said...
14. Do you and Steve, or Steve and the other wives, ever have date nights, like where he takes you out somewhere just the two of you(or them) to spend time alone? or is it pretty much the whole family spending time together most of the time?
We are not doing dates right now just because money is really tight and it costs a lot to go somewhere. I mean we are 40 miles from town.
15. Do you dress your girls in matching outfits?
No. I got some matching outfits for them as presents but I never have them in the same thing at the same time. I really want them to be who they are and not ever half of someone else.
16. Do you still run like you and Christi were before?
No. The roads are mostly gravel and it is too hard to run on them. We have a treadmill here and I use that sometimes but Christie will probably use it more after her baby comes.
17. Any regrets about joining your poly family?
The only regret I ever had was I wish I had taken things a lot slower. I was really stupid when I came here and thought it was a big fairy tale because things were so much better than with my mom and I rushed into things. I didn't have to do the wedding night and I could have waited but I wanted the fairy tale wedding night and was not really ready for all of that.
18. What kind of disagreements does your family have(if any) from time to time?
CHORES!!!! Chores are a very big deal around here because you have to figure out what you can't do when you are pregnant and then everyone else has to agree and then someone else has to do your work for you. Lauren and Hannah are not so big into doing everything since their mom left and then with Macy and Christie pregnant at the same time that means me, Lauren, and Hannah have a lot of the hard work to do and it is easy to get really tired of doing all that all the time.
19. do you ever get upset with your sister wives?
Yes, sometimes.
20. Do you ever feel jealous of your sister wives? and if so how do you deal with it?
Yes. When I was expecting the girls and had to stop being with Steve I missed him a lot and it was hard to know he was with someone else when I really wanted to be held and I got a little jealous. I just had to deal with it is all because no one was doing anything wrong and I knew what I was getting into when I joined the family. It is my problem and not theirs.
Thursday, August 26, 2010
Meg's questions
If you have more children in the future, would you consider allowing your sisterwives to act as a wet nurse rather than use bottles if they were willing?
Yes, I did that for Christie's daughter Emily for a while. I don't see anything wrong with that but I know it bothers some women.
How are Shari's daughters reacting to their new twin sisters?
Just fine. I think having babies around is pretty normal to them and they used to babysit for other families so they know some more stuff with babies that I did not know at first.
If your chickens stop laying, will you use them for meat so you know where your food comes from?
We already do. I have a couple special chickens who are more pets and we'll never do that with them but the rest are chickens and that is what they are for. The ones that have problems end up on the table like if they are laying soft shell eggs all the time or eggs without shells.
What is your favorite kind of cake to make for your family?
My favorite is chocolate with cherry filling and buttercream frosting but everyone else likes my Boston Cream Pie. I make it more like a cake than a pie and my trick is I use banana slices between the layers to make it stand up better and then everyone likes the banana slices.
Would you consider taking up knitting or sewing as hobbies, especially since they could be used as a means of providing clothing for your family?
That's weird you asked because I am starting quilting this fall and joining the quilting circle when it starts up next month.
What is your favorite dinner to make since taking the cooking classes? -Meg
The best one I have done is a pork shoulder roast. I took a 15 pound pork shoulder and put it in a 18 quart pot with vegetable oil on the bottom. I preheated it on a high heat to where the oil spattered when you dropped a little water in it and then seared the pork shoulder all the way around. I burned it a little on purpose to give it some flavor. Then I filled the pot up with water, a bottle of red wine, basil leaves, a pinch of anise and added about a cup of salt and then let it simmer for almost 6 hours. Then I pulled the pork out and strained the liquid and then used Kitchen Bouquet and some flour to make a gravy and added some pepper.
I served it with steamed Brussels sprouts and Idaho Gold potatoes mashed with one yam and butter. The yam adds a neat texture to the potatoes and it makes for a nice color balance on the plate. The whole dinner was really easy to do and I used only two pots. One for the pork and then one to boil the potatoes and I put the steamer over that pot for the carrots.
There were no leftovers and I only really had two pots to clean up after dinner so that is my favorite dinner so far.
Yes, I did that for Christie's daughter Emily for a while. I don't see anything wrong with that but I know it bothers some women.
How are Shari's daughters reacting to their new twin sisters?
Just fine. I think having babies around is pretty normal to them and they used to babysit for other families so they know some more stuff with babies that I did not know at first.
If your chickens stop laying, will you use them for meat so you know where your food comes from?
We already do. I have a couple special chickens who are more pets and we'll never do that with them but the rest are chickens and that is what they are for. The ones that have problems end up on the table like if they are laying soft shell eggs all the time or eggs without shells.
What is your favorite kind of cake to make for your family?
My favorite is chocolate with cherry filling and buttercream frosting but everyone else likes my Boston Cream Pie. I make it more like a cake than a pie and my trick is I use banana slices between the layers to make it stand up better and then everyone likes the banana slices.
Would you consider taking up knitting or sewing as hobbies, especially since they could be used as a means of providing clothing for your family?
That's weird you asked because I am starting quilting this fall and joining the quilting circle when it starts up next month.
What is your favorite dinner to make since taking the cooking classes? -Meg
The best one I have done is a pork shoulder roast. I took a 15 pound pork shoulder and put it in a 18 quart pot with vegetable oil on the bottom. I preheated it on a high heat to where the oil spattered when you dropped a little water in it and then seared the pork shoulder all the way around. I burned it a little on purpose to give it some flavor. Then I filled the pot up with water, a bottle of red wine, basil leaves, a pinch of anise and added about a cup of salt and then let it simmer for almost 6 hours. Then I pulled the pork out and strained the liquid and then used Kitchen Bouquet and some flour to make a gravy and added some pepper.
I served it with steamed Brussels sprouts and Idaho Gold potatoes mashed with one yam and butter. The yam adds a neat texture to the potatoes and it makes for a nice color balance on the plate. The whole dinner was really easy to do and I used only two pots. One for the pork and then one to boil the potatoes and I put the steamer over that pot for the carrots.
There were no leftovers and I only really had two pots to clean up after dinner so that is my favorite dinner so far.
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